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My guest today is Joette Calabrese, HMC, CCH, RSHom (NA). She is a homeopathic consultant and educator who began her formal studies in homeopathy in 1986 when she wanted to address her family’s health issues without synthetic drugs or doctor visits. We’ll be talking about how homeopathy works to trigger the body’s natural system of healing and how homeopathy can can help your body recover from food intolerances. Joette is the author of a study program called How to Raise a Drug Free Family, CDs, books and online courses to teach families how to cure themselves using homeopathy. She also writes a column in the Weston Price Foundation’s Wise Traditions journal. “Health is not random,” says Joette, “It can be achieved through the detailed and systematic method of classical homeopathy.” www.JoetteCalabrese.com

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TOXIC FREE TALK RADIO
Healing Food Intolerances with Homeopathy

Host: Debra Lynn Dadd
Guest: Calabrese HMC, CCH, RSHom (NA)

Date of Broadcast: October 15, 2013

DEBRA: Hi, I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. And this is Toxic Free Talk Radio where we talk about how to thrive in a toxic world. And we talk about different things on this show—everything from where the toxic chemicals are in your home, in consumer products, even in your body, to how we can do things that are effective and productive without using toxic products.

And that’s one of the themes of today’s show where we’re going to be talking about how you can be healthy without taking drugs, which are actually toxic chemicals.

And I’m particularly interested in this right now because I recently—I actually don’t have health insurance, but I have this little program, very inexpensive, it costs me $63 a month, that pays for part of the doctor visit and lab tests, and it pays 100% of lab tests. So if I need to go get a lab test for something, it’s all paid for.

And they sent me a letter saying that the new Healthcare Act has canceled this program, which was absolutely perfect for me.

I once got an MRI on this program for $63 a month. That costs a $1000 or something.

So they have now canceled it because it’s illegal to have it, according to the new Healthcare Act, which says that every citizen in America has to have full coverage insurance, or you need to pay a penalty.

So I’m trying to figure all of this out, but I think that part of the solution here is for us to just not be sick, which is what I prefer anyway.

So avoiding toxic chemicals is part of that, but my guest today is here to say that homeopathy is part of that as well.

Hi, Joette. This is Joette Calabrese. Is it Calabrese?

JOETTE CALABRESE: Well, if you’re in Italy, it’s Calabrese. If you’re in the US, it’s Calabrese.

DEBRA: So, this is Joette Calabrese. She’s a homeopathic consultant and educator who began her formal studies in homeopathy in 1986 when she wanted to address her family’s health issues without synthetic drugs or doctor visits. I think something that a lot of us would like to do.

Joette, the first question I want to ask you is you have all these letters after your name—HMC, CCH, RSHOM(NA). What do all those mean?

JOETTE CALABRESE: Well, HMC is Homeopathic Master Clinician. RSHOM means that I am a member of an organization that certifies, that we follow specific protocol in homeopathy, and that we are following the precepts of the organization.

These are all designations that I’ve gotten through my studies in Toronto to become a classical homeopath.

DEBRA: Thank you. So, Joette has been on this show before and has told us her story. But Joette, I’m sure we have some new readers, so why don’t you just start by telling us how you became interested in homeopathy.

JOETTE CALABRESE: Well, in my 20’s, I was actually married to a neurosurgeon. I’m no longer in that marriage, but during that time, I was in a world in which each issue that you had was met with a drug. And that was back in the ‘70s when drugs were hot, interesting, and being developed.

If you didn’t take drugs for this or that, it seems as though you were naïve. That was almost the message.

So, I used drugs for everything. I don’t want to give you the impression that I was doing psychedelic drugs or anything like that.

But if I had the slightest headache, it wouldn’t cross my mind to just let it be, or take a nap, or drink more water, or question what I had just eaten. Instead, I just took Tylenol which was being developed at that time. So, I took Tylenol.

And it got worse and worse. The more I took, the more I needed. The more I needed, the more in depth I got into this paradigm.

And one day, I recognized that this paradigm was causing more trouble than it was eliminating. And I realized that I was suffering with the drugs, as much as I was without the drugs. So I just stopped cold turkey.

I decided that was it. I wasn’t going to take another drug in my entire life.

Now, I’ve been fairly successful. I had a surgery that was an emergency surgery years ago which, of course, I needed general anesthesia, and of course, I would want that. But other than that, I have not taken another drug in said time.

But it left me still in a rather pathetic state. I had asthma. This was all created as a result—in my estimation, as a result of the drugs, particularly, from antibiotics.

And it must be in a sad state where I had a diet in which I was so limited—it was a sad little diet. It’s the best way I can put it. I had about eight foods I could eat comfortably.

DEBRA: I once had a sad little diet too.

JOETTE CALABRESE: I had to rebuild what I had torn down. And I had really torn down a great deal without recognizing it.

And even in the beginning, I didn’t really realize the depths and breadth to which I had destroyed my health with these medications.

DEBRA: It always interests me when—I don’t watch that much television, but late at night, I’m too tired to do anything else, so I just turn on the TV, and it always interests me to see these commercials where they’re advertising a drug, and these are prescription drugs. But they say what the drug does, “Now, you can have your life back because you don’t have allergies anymore,” or whatever.

And then they read you, in a very pleasant voice, this long list of side effects, including liver damage, death, and all these other things.

And so they’re telling us, every time they run an ad, they’re telling us that these drugs are bad for our health. And yet, they expect people to then turn around and take them, which people do.

JOETTE CALABRESE: And now, they have their arms twisted. I used to work at NBC, and I used to write copy for commercials. And I can tell you that—they don’t want to tell you this but, of course, the government is requiring that, and I’m not sure that that’s a good thing either. A whole picture is all very blurry, but in spite of what the government is telling them, they must tell us people still.

But I believe that the reason that people do this is, for two reasons—one is their doctor told them. That’s number one. And that is more than gigantic. And the second is, they don’t know that there’s another alternative.

Those are the two main reasons.

DEBRA: I think you’re exactly right on both of those.

JOETTE CALABRESE: Let me also tell you. Once I learned about all of this, and I started to change my eating habits, I did see a grand shift.

Now, I didn’t eat poorly to start with. I’m Italian-American. I love to cook. And I didn’t eat a lot of pasta. I had calamares, I had lots of kinds of fishes and beef, and lots of good food. And I always loved sourcing my foods well. I always often bought from the Amish, et cetera, et cetera.

So I didn’t have too far to go to make it wholesome, but I still couldn’t get it right because I was so allergic at that point to most foods that it didn’t matter the source, the wholesomeness, the wherewithal. I was now deathly allergic to dairy, couldn’t touch a tomato, et cetera, et cetera.

DEBRA: I remember that phase in my life as well where I only had—I think it was 12 foods that I could eat. I did that rotation diet you probably know about (probably a lot of people know about that). And I ate four foods. It was a five-day rotation.

I don’t remember exactly what it was, but I remember I could eat kidney beans. I don’t remember what it all was, but I did it for a year. And it did make a big difference because prior to that I was eating standard junk food. And this really made a difference for me.

JOETTE CALABRESE: Yes, well, it does make a difference, but the problem is, that’s not a life.

DEBRA: No, it’s not.

JOETTE CALABRESE: And not only it’s not a life, but even with that, as we call it, our sad little diets, I work with people all the time with this problem. This is what I do all the time as a homeopath because most people come to me with gut issues because of my own story, et cetera.

But what I find is that the eight foods then go down to seven foods. Now, we can’t eat venison anymore, or now, we can’t touch butter. And it gets more and more meat.

And so it’s not a solution, it’s a temporary holding pattern, which is necessary for many people. There’s no doubt about it. As you’ve said, in your situation it was a holding pattern that was necessary, but there is a way to get around this, and that’s where I believe—

DEBRA: It didn’t actually solve the problem. What it did was, I found that when you think that something is causing a problem or causing a symptom, that when you avoid it, it doesn’t stimulate the problem or symptom. But it also doesn’t solve the problem.

So we’re going to talk more about some things that can solve the problem after the break. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. This is Toxic Free Talk Radio, and my guest today is Joette Calabrese, and she’s a homeopathic consultant. And she’s going to tell us all about how we can use homeopathy to help with being less toxic. We’ll be right back.

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DEBRA: This is Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd, and my guest today is Joette Calabrese. And we’re talking about homeopathy and food intolerances.

So Joette, tell us how homeopathy can help restore our ability to eat food.

JOETTE CALABRESE: Well, first, let me mention that homeopathy is misunderstood. People think it means home remedies because of the prefix home, in the word “homeopathy.”

But it doesn’t mean that at all. It means home, in the word “homeopathy” means homonym, or similar, or like. So being similar, and then pathy, of course, means illness, or pathology. So it means similar pathology.

So what it means is that there is a substance on this earth, there are many substances on this earth, of course, that when used in its gross form will cause symptoms that when it’s diluted, it will eliminate those symptoms not because it suppresses them or pushes them away, but rather, uproots them.

So, let me give you an example.

DEBRA: Yes, please. I’m still trying to understand homeopathy.

JOETTE CALABRESE: It is hard to understand at first, but it will make sense in minute. Let’s say, we get poison ivy. We know that poison ivy causes itching and pustules and restlessness and even achiness if enough of it has gotten into.

And so that is a cluster of symptoms that poison ivy causes in its gross form.

Well, what disease can we describe that is very much like poison ivy? Well, you could say chicken pox is like poison ivy.

So chicken pox is pustules, itchy, restlessness. And sometimes, it’s even achiness if it gets pretty severe.

So when we get poison ivy, and we dilute it—now, I’m not doing this. This is done at a homeopathic pharmacy, regulated by the FDA, I might mention as well. When it’s highly diluted, it is so dilute that it’s thin when taken. There’s no real poison ivy left in it. What’s left is the blueprint, or the idea of the poison ivy. And it stimulates the body’s system to uproot the chicken pox.

Now, it’s not poison ivy for when you get poison ivy. That would be exact-pathy. We’re talking about homeopathy. Homeopathy means it’s similar. So chicken pox is similar enough to poison ivy that we can use poison ivy to stimulate the body’s ability to rid itself of it.

And I’ve witnessed it in chicken pox. Of course, I witness it all the time in my work and in my family, et cetera. But with chicken pox, it can be downright remarkable—within minutes sometimes that we don’t see the pustules go away. We see the restlessness and the maddening itchiness just melts away within 40 minutes, half an hour.

DEBRA: That’s so interesting to me. We think in this culture, in terms of using a physical thing to change a physical thing. But it’s more of an energetic thing here with homeopathy, changing a physical thing. And I think sometimes it’s mindboggling to think in a different way.

But I understand that it works. I totally believe you. And it’s a legitimate practice to do. I know you see successes with it all the time.

So now, do we understand what homeopathy is? Shall we go on?

JOETTE CALABRESE: Let me just add this because I think this is interesting, particularly, because of your subject being that of toxicity. What’s lovely about homeopathy or downright profound for that matter is that the more toxic the original substance is, poison ivy for example, the more curative it is when it’s extremely diluted properly.

So it means that every ugly toxic mean old substance on this earth has a purpose—even lead, even aluminum, even fluoride.

All of those substances that cause trouble—aluminum fluoride is what I mean, of course. But even those toxic substances become medicines when highly diluted.

So, unlike the herbalist, who is looking for a plant that is medicinal in its gross form, and remains that way by making it into a tincture or [inaudible 00:15:40] or a tea or something like, homeopathy will use those as well, but we really love the toxins.

DEBRA: What you’re saying reminds me of—a few days ago, I had a woman on Dina Falconi, and we were talking about foraging. She’s written a book called “Foraging and Feasting.” And while we were talking about that, we were talking about invasive plants, and about how most people—invasive plants could be thought of toxic chemicals in terms of them being something that you don’t want there, and that you want to get rid of them, and then just have them be gone.

But she was telling us how some of the best foraging plants are actually invasive plants, like dandelions in your lawn. Most people just want to rip them out, but dandelions actually can detox your liver. And so it’s just that juxtaposition between on the one hand, a plant or a material can be harmful, or a toxic chemical can be harmful, but in another way, it has a gift in a different way, and that it can be used for a positive benefit, and maybe we just don’t know what the positive benefits are. Maybe we’re using these substances incorrectly, and that’s why they’re toxic.

JOETTE CALABRESE: I think we get stuck in our ways, and when we broaden and open our eyes a little differently, or look at something from a different point of view, we can’t help but notice that it’s a big beautiful tapestry. We just have to look at each thread and examine it slightly differently, maybe from a different light, or different angle, and then come to light.

DEBRA: This is just so interesting. I’ve done a lot of research over the past 30 years about toxicity, and one of the things is, I know that a lot of people think that if a chemical is toxic, it’s toxic and it’s toxic in the same way to everybody. But, in fact, it isn’t. And this is part of the reason why it’s difficult to pinpoint what is a toxic chemical.

Then people say, “Well, why don’t they just take off the toxic chemicals off the market?”

Because part of it has to do with the dose, and part of it has to do with how it’s used, that you can even say water could be a toxic chemical if you use too much. You could drown. So are we going to say water should never be sold again, or we should never have any access to water?

Well, of course not.

JOETTE CALABRESE: Absolutely. Salt is another good example.

DEBRA: Yes, salt is an excellent example. And there are things that we absolutely need or our bodies would die, yet, in the wrong doses, whether in the right doses, that we need them, but in the wrong doses are harmful.

We need to take another break. This is Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd, and my guest today is Joette Calabrese, and we’re talking about homeopathy. We’ll be right back.

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DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd, and my guest today is Joette Calabrese. She’s a homeopathic consultant and educator, and you can go to her website, which is JoetteCalabrese.com. I’m going to spell it for you, J-O-E-T-T-E-C-A-L-A-B-R-E-S-E dot com. But it might be easier for you to go to ToxicFreeTalkRadio.com, and you’ll see the description of the show, and there’s a link to her site, and you’ll see all the other guests that are on for the whole week.

You can also go to the archives, and you can find the other show when Joette was on, and listen to that as well, as well as all of the other, more than a hundred shows that we’ve done here at Toxic Free Talk Radio.

So Joette, what shall we talk about next?

JOETTE CALABRESE: Well, I love to preface the discussion about food intolerances with the fact that it’s not spontaneous combustion. I believe very strongly that the cause of most food intolerances are as a result of taking drugs. That’s why I started off by explaining or describing my story.

That we all have this inheritance, we all have this sleeping giant, so to speak, in our family link. And we want to keep that sleeping giant latent, and keep it silent and quiet.

So grandma has GERD, and grandpa has eczema, the baby that’s born—the baby is not given drugs for every little ill, or drugs, period for that matter, unless absolutely necessary.

Then that baby will likely live with that sleeping giant for a very long time. But if we stimulate that sleeping giant and rouse it with the first antibiotic because of an ear infection, and then the second antibiotic, and then steroids, and then on and on, the whole routine—by the time a child reaches college, they’ve had 69 vaccines.

Unbelievable.

No one ever counts them. It’s not 69 different ones, it’s including the boosters, but that’s 69 pathogens, directly injected into a child.

So to say that we’re stimulating that sleeping giant is putting it mildly. So what happens is if we give the child an antibiotic for that ear infection instead of using homeopathy, or allowing the ear infection to come and go on its own. They do that in England. Pediatricians don’t use antibiotics in England for otitis media. They just allow the child to have the infection.

But if we let it be, then that sleeping giant will remain asleep. But if we give the antibiotic, not only are we rousing what’s in the family history, but we’re also destroying the gut. It’s just a given. Even American Academy of Pediatrics is warning pediatricians. They’ve been doing this for a decade at least, that they should not be giving out antibiotics so readily because it’s causing, as we know, super bugs now.

That’s where super bug is new on the news front, and it’s absolutely in relationship to the overuse of antibiotics.

DEBRA: There are a couple of things I would like to say in response to that. One is that I just want to say a little more about antibiotics, what they are and what happens in your gut because I know—I’m an intelligent person, and I didn’t know this for most of my life. But what makes everything happen in our guts are microbes, microorganisms, bacteria, all these things.

And antibiotic, when you take an antibiotic, it might kill the microorganism that’s causing an infection, but it’s also killing all those good bugs in your gut that are doing all the work with digesting your food. And you take those over and over and over again.

When I was in my teens, I took antibiotics every single day for acne. Every single day.

JOETTE CALABRESE: That is such a common story, Debra. I hear that all the time.

DEBRA: Tetracycline for six years. And they were giving me nothing to help to rebuild my intestines. And so here I am now, at my age, having to do all this stuff for my intestines, so that I can digest my food, and luckily, I know something about this. But that’s what happens when antibiotic is killing the biotic material in your gut.

Chlorine is there to kill in the water. It’s put in the water. Chlorine or chloramines is put in the water in order to kill the bacteria.

If you’re drinking chlorinated water, it’s destroying all the flora and fauna in your gut. And that, I think, is a huge problem.

The other thing I wanted to say is that when I was—I used to work in an office of a doctor who was treating people with multiple chemical sensitivities. And what would happen, I discovered there that people would come in, and they’d have chemical sensitivities, and they’d have food sensitivities.

And then they would go away on a vacation to the beach or something. I would send them away from their toxic chemicals because that was my job—it was to remove the toxic chemicals from their life.

So they would go away in some clean environment for a week or two weeks, and they’d come back and they’d say, “I can eat all my foods. What happened to my food sensitivities?”

And I think it’s the same kind of thing as drugs and chemicals will destroy your ability to eat foods. Your body just can’t do all of it at once. And when people would reduce that load of toxic chemical exposures that it would come back.

But homeopathy does something else. It does something special, doesn’t it? It actually supports your body in the healing. It’s not just about—

JOETTE CALABRESE: Well, it does more than support. It does much more than support. It revolutionizes it. And I don’t mean to be dramatic here, but support is what we get from supplements. Support is what we get from sunshine. Support is what we get from well-chosen decisions in our lives. But homeopathy uproots.

It’s a medicine. It’s the kind of medicine that we thought we were getting all along because when people go to the doctor, they think that they’re going to be cured. And the doctors—if you ask a doctor, you say, “You’re going to cure this? No. We’re going to treat the symptoms.”

You don’t think we’re going to cure this, did you?

So homeopathy is the medicine where that I, as a child, because I had terrible eczema, and that has had to do with my food intolerances, I’m sure, I kept hoping that we were going to find a cure for it.

Well, that wasn’t going to happen until I found homeopathy. And when I went to a homeopath, this was 30 years ago, and she gave me the first remedy based on my chemical sensitivities, my food intolerances, everything that I’ve described before, within a week, I saw a shift. By the end of the month, 40% of my symptoms were gone.

Not suppressed, not put aside to come back later, they were gone. They simply melted away. It was such a remarkable shift that I had to know more about this, which is why I had become a homeopath today.

Now, that was 40%, but then the last 60% took longer, but in one month, after 8, 10 years of suffering from this, and after having gone to doctor after doctor after doctor, and clinic and to clinic, top notch doctors on the East Coast and no one had helped me.

DEBRA: We have to take another break. These seconds go by so fast. You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd, and my guest today is Joette Calabrese, and we’re learning all about homeopathy and food intolerances.

And we’ll be right back.

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DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd, and my guest today is Joette Calabrese. We’re talking about homeopathy and food intolerances.

So this is our last segment now, Joette, so we need to talk about—

JOETTE CALABRESE: Yeah, let’s do it right. We can go on for hours, Debra.

DEBRA: I’m sure we can go on for hours, and we will. But today, we’re talking about food intolerances.

JOETTE CALABRESE: So the first remedy I was given, let me tell you that because it’s the first remedy most people are given—not most, but many people are given when they have food intolerances, when there is a specific set of symptoms. And that is symptoms, such as diarrhea, pain in the gut, waking up in the middle of the night, anxiety.

And also, there’s a lot of irritability. So because we know that the gut is the seat of our behavior as well, of course. So the remedy is Nux Vomica.

This is a great remedy because it’s a perfect example of what I was telling you earlier about toxicity, and the toxic substances that we use in homeopathy that are so diluted that now they’re no longer toxic. And as they’re diluted, the toxicity is removed, and the curative action is brought to the fore.

Nux Vomica is called a poison nut. And if you eat this nut, it will cause the symptoms that I had, such as waking up at 3 in the morning, anxiety attacks, gastrointestinal disturbances, especially from having had a lot of meds.

That is one of the criterion in using Nux Vomica. So because I had been using a lot of medications that brought me to this point, and because I have these other symptoms, Nux Vomica was the perfect fit. So I took Nux Vomica, and that’s what eliminated forever 40% of the symptoms that I had been suffering for a decade with.

DEBRA: That’s just amazing.

JOETTE CALABRESE: It is amazing. It is amazing. But it’s also great for—it’s a great remedy for over-indulgence, and hadn’t I over-indulged? I’d been taking these medications for seven, eight years. I had over-indulged. I had overdone it.

But it’s also for over-indulgence on another level, for a child has come back from. And this is perfect for this month. For a when a child has gone out trick or treating, and they come back after eating all of the wrong stuff. They over-indulged, now their child is cantankerous, anxious, they can’t sleep properly, they wake up, they have stomachaches, they have diarrhea, they feel nauseous, they’re irritable. Nux Vomica.

What will that do for this child? If the child has food intolerances in general—if a child truly has food intolerances, my guess is the mom wouldn’t let the child out and eat off that candy in the first place, but it is hard to keep—

DEBRA: You never know.

JOETTE CALABRESE: Yes, but contraband. It really is. I mean, it’s like a black market in the kid’s world.

What I have taught my students to do, and that’s what I do a lot, is teach people how to use this, I would suggest that they learn how to use Nux Vomica 30, that’s the number—that means it’s been diluted 30 times, diluted 30 times to the x, it’s 30 x to the 10th power. That’s quite dilute.

Now, we use Nux Vomica 30 after the child comes home, if they have these complaints. You give it every few hours, and the next day, the child is as good as new. So, those sleepovers, those Halloween situations, those times when they’ve eaten a lot of pizza, or they’ve eaten a lot of cupcake.

That’s kind of the top of the picture. The underlying picture is that it’s for someone, such as, what I suffered when it was chronic.

See, that sounded as if I have an acute situation. I had a chronic problem. But it works in both settings.

DEBRA: Good. Are there other remedies—

JOETTE CALABRESE: Yes, let me give you another one. Another one is Arsenicum Album. Arsenic. White arsenic. Yes, arsenic. We do everything we can to get arsenic out of our systems, and indeed, if someone is stressed because of arsenic poisoning, and it does happen, because as you know, the lumber, those treated lumber, used to have arsenic in it.

DEBRA: There’s also arsenic, a lot of arsenic—people have been eating brown rice for years, and then we’re finding out that there’s arsenic in brown rice.

And so somebody like that, who’s been eating something inadvertently without knowing it, they could take this remedy, and it would help clear the arsenic.

JOETTE CALABRESE: Well, we don’t want them to take it inadvertently. This is not willy nilly. It absolutely must—I’m not suggesting that you’re saying, Debra, we have to make certain that people understand.

There must be symptoms that fit the remedy. And the symptoms for Arsenicum Album is, generally, they’re cold, they’re thirsty, but not thirsty for long drinks. They sip water. They have a lot of anxiety. They’re restless. They have diarrhea, or they have diarrhea alternating with constipation.

They have nausea, or they have both—severe nausea and vomiting and diarrhea. They have tremendous weakness in the system, so that they feel exhausted.

So I tell people, “Doesn’t it remind you of Montezuma’s Revenge, for example?”

I tell people, when they go to Mexico, never go without Arsenicum Album in your purse. It’s the perfect companion for a time when you might get dysentery.

So it’s also a dysentery remedy, as well as for chronic problems in which the person suffers in this fashion.

So Arsenicum Album is another lovely, lovely remedy. And again, we use for an acute, such as Montezuma’s Revenge, dysentery, we would use Arsenicum Album 30x—means it’s diluted 30 times, x stands for 10 to the 10th power.

So there’s arsenic left in it. That’s the hard part that people have getting their heads wrapped around this. It’s a difficult issue to understand, but once you get it, and once you incorporate this into your life, there’s a solution for everything, in terms of health issues in relationship to homeopathy.

So I have raised my three sons, who are now adults, with nothing but whole density-rich foods that I’ve made myself and have found from quality farmers and my own backyard now because I have chickens and a garden and homeopathy.

So my children have never had an antibiotic or Tylenol and Aspirin, no drugs at all.

DEBRA: And they’re probably very healthy.

JOETTE CALABRESE: They’re very healthy, and they’re handsome too.

DEBRA: Yes.

JOETTE CALABRESE: Because that goes hand in hand.

DEBRA: It does. I think it does too. I read a very interesting book. I can’t remember the name of it right now, but it was talking about how the nutrition we get or don’t get affects how the look of our faces, how our bone structure gets built.

JOETTE CALABRESE: That’s Weston Price for sure. Dr. Weston Price did a lot of research on that and that’s another great source of information for nutrition is the Weston A. Price Foundation.

DEBRA: Absolutely. I am totally, 100% behind that diet. And I’ve incorporated many of those things in the way I eat.

So I want to make sure that you get to say everything that you want to say. Is there another—

JOETTE CALABRESE: Yes, let me give you one more. For indigestion, when people have chronic indigestion, or even acute indigestion, one of my favorite remedies Nat Phos 6x. Nat, N-A-T, Phos, P-H-O-S, 6x.

My father used to live on Tums. He used to buy the jumbo size. He could barely pick the bottle up. It was so heavy. And he’d keep it in his car, and wherever he went, he had that with him until we discovered Nat Phos 6x.

And instead of living on these questionable medications, he just pops four pills of Nat Phos 6x into his mouth, anytime he has indigestion.

Now, he doesn’t do it anymore. This was years ago. Why doesn’t he do it any longer?

DEBRA: Because the homeopathy made it go away.

JOETTE CALABRESE: Yes, it’s gone now. It’s uprooted. It’s over with. Where, if he had stayed with the other quasi medication—I call it polyester medication, to be honest, he would still be taking them. He would still have that habit of having to take that.

So now, he can eat without worrying about the foods that he eats now. Certainly, if he overdoes it, if he eats donuts and things like that, but he’s pretty careful, and he’s certainly not going to eat processed foods, but there was a time when he couldn’t even have nuts. Now, he can have them.

DEBRA: Me and my father couldn’t eat nuts. I’m just thinking about rewinding back 30 or 40 years ago. We didn’t have all these alternative things. Obviously, homeopathy existed, but it wasn’t as well-known as it is now. And so like my father—everybody in our family was vigilant, and a nut could not come anywhere near him, or he would go into such an asthma attack that he could actually die.

And this could have helped him so much.

JOETTE CALABRESE: Yes, it could have. Absolutely. Certainly.

And so we anaphylaxis a lot of times. Certainly, the lips swell, the throat swells, the tongue swells. And there’s a homeopathic remedy that I would not suggest that someone use their epipen if they have it. But if they don’t have an epipen, and they’re on the way to the hospital with a swollen lip and tongue and throat, and you don’t have it anyway, the remedy is Apis, A-P, like

Patrick, I-S, like Sam, Apis.

DEBRA: I could just sing like the apiary.

JOETTE CALABRESE: That’s right because it’s made from a honeybee. A dead honeybee, mash it up, and make it into a homeopathic remedy, which if you were stung by it, would cause precisely that same kind of symptoms.

DEBRA: Well, thank you so much for being with us today, Joette. It’s always fascinating to hear everything that you have to say. We’ve only got just a few seconds left. So I’m sure we’ll talk again. I’m sure you’ll be on again. I’m sure there will be more interesting information. But thank you for being with us today.

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And I’ll be back tomorrow.

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