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My guest today is Glen Tippets, Co-Founder of GlenKaren Premium Shoe Care Products. I had to have him on the show after I read the story about how he loved to polish his leather shoes, but his wife hated the chemical smell. The compromise? Create an all-natural shoe polish, of course. We’ll talk about their shoe polish and how to maintain and enjoy good shoes. Glen is a Business Systems Analyst with 20+ years of experience in penetrating root causes of complex system problems and architecting simple solutions that help move companies forward. Currently Glen is employed as a Director of Business Administration in a small company of 65 employees. Glen’s love of shoes began in the late 70’s with his first pair of leather dress shoes. One of his main hobbies ever since has been learning about shoe leather and how to properly care for his ever growing shoe collection.





Natural Shoe Polish for Leather Shoes

Host: Debra Lynn Dadd
Guest: Glen Tippets

Date of Broadcast: February 6, 2014

DEBRA: Hi, I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. And this is Toxic Free Talk Radio where we talk about how to thrive in a toxic world. Today is Thursday, February 6th 2014. I’m here in Clearwater, Florida.

And today, we’re going to talk about something that is kind of an unusual product. We’re talking about shoe polish. I don’t know how many of you polish your shoes. I haven’t polished a shoe in—I can’t remember when I polished a shoe. But I do remember when I was a little girl that my father had a whole row of leather shoes in his closet, and they had a very particular smell. And it didn’t seem to offend me. It was just the smell of shoe polish and those leather shoes. It kind of reminds me of my father. But shoe polish is toxic.

We’re going to find out about that because my guest today makes a natural shoe polish. He’s going to tell us all about that. Hi Glen.

GLEN TIPPETTS: Hi Debra. Thanks for having me on the show.

DEBRA: Thanks for being here. This is Glen Tippets. He’s the co-founder of GlenKaren Premium Shoe Care Products. And I had to have them on the show after I read their story about how he loved to polish his leather shoes, but his wife hated the chemical smell. So, tell us about what happened.

GLEN TIPPETTS: Well, my background is more as a business analyst type of career or so. I naturally analyze things. That’s what I do.

DEBRA: I do that too.

GLEN TIPPETTS: So, since I have really liked shoes, I have a fairly large collection. I have about 80 pairs.

DEBRA: Eighty pairs?!


DEBRA: Do you were them all? Do you wear them? Or you just collect them?

GLEN TIPPETTS: No, I wear them actually. Yes, uh-huh…

DEBRA: That’s great. That’s more than I have.

GLEN TIPPETTS: So yeah, it’s not typical for a man to have that many pairs of shoes. I find it interesting that shoes are kind of based on gender. Typically, women collect more shoes than men do. But men shine their shoes more frequently than women do.

And of course it has to do with the material that the shoes are made of as well. Women’s shoes tend to be less made of leather; and men shoes are almost always made out of leather. So that’s part of the reason.

DEBRA: I wanted to ask you a historical question, but I want to talk about you first. I want to find out what made you interested in shoes—and leather shoes in particular.

GLEN TIPPETTS: I think it’s the inherent value and what they are. A well-made shoe is like a piece of art for me. It has to be structured to support walking and so forth. It has to look good. It is made out of a natural product. It has to be [inaudible 03:06].

Just the whole concept just really appealed to me. It’s a natural type of material that’s made from one thing and repurposed for another.

DEBRA: I love that explanation. I never thought about leather shoes before. But I also wear leather shoes. And I know some people listening will probably go animal rights. We should have animal rights, but I do consider that leather has been used since time immemorial to make clothing and shoes and all kinds of useful things. And I think that it can be done in a respectful way. And it certainly can be non-toxic. Although a lot of times, there are toxic chemicals used. So it’s important to distinguish between the two.

My favorite pair of shoes is a pair of leather shoes that—I’m trying to remember what kind. It’s almost like kid glove leather. I don’t know all the different types of leather. But it’s so soft it just molds to my foot. I can wear those all day long. I can walk and walk and walk in those shoes because they’re so comfortable.

GLEN TIPPETTS: There are all types and grades of leather. The kid would be made out of goat actually. It can be softer than cow. But leather shoes are made out of all kinds of animal skin, but typically cow or calf.

DEBRA: So, let me ask the historical question. When did shiny shoes start being introduced? Do you know that?

GLEN TIPPETTS: Well, I can’t think of a specific date. I could tell you that shoes became more of the [inaudible 04:55].

There’s kind of an evolution there where you had, back in the [inaudible 05:02] era or whatever you want to call it, the workers on the fields that had leather boots and so forth that are strapped on. And then, you had what are called cork shoes which are [inaudible 05:12] type of thing that men wear. So there’s this distinction between nice shoes and work shoes.

Work shoes, of course, were never polished or anything else. They were just cared for. They were typically oiled to keep them from cracking and drying out. But the dry shoes or the cork shoes were typically made out of fabric rather than leather. But they did certainly make them out of leather later on. And in those cases, they would’ve been polished. It’s probably not the way we do it today, but it was [inaudible 05:46].

DEBRA: Yeah, yeah. I remember too, when I was a kid, being in a big city—I lived next to San Francisco so we would go in the city all the time—we’d be passing a nice hotel and there would be shoe shine places where men could get their shoe shined. I don’t think I see those so much anymore. I wonder if this is like an old thing that is not being done so much.

And I think of like the military polishing their shoes. Isn’t that right? They do check to see if your shoes are polished?

GLEN TIPPETTS: They certainly do. I served in the 101st Airborne back in the ‘70s. And so I got to wear jump boots. Those are the ones [inaudible 06:41] and so forth. And yes, we had inspections where you had to have very shiny boots.

DEBRA: And so they use shoe polish and shoe wax I guess to do that?

GLEN TIPPETTS: Yeah, the most common brand used worldwide typically (or at least the military) is Kiwi by FC Johnson or Johnson & Johnson. I can’t remember the name of the company is now. But it’s the big chemical company that makes all kinds of stuff. But Kiwi holds about I think 96% of the shoe polish market.

The reason that you see less and less shoe shine booths or benches or whatever you want to call them is because there are less and less leather shoes in the world. Back to the turn of the century, it was very common for every man to have at least a couple pairs of leather shoes and try to keep them in good repair and so forth. Now, it’s more common to have suede shoes or tennis shoes or whatever you want to call them. The [inaudible 07:50] much more casual. Back around the time of the depression, even [inaudible 07:54] because that was part of the culture. That culture has changed, and so you don’t see that nearly as much now.

DEBRA: But I think that having a pair of leather shoes—which how many years could those last when taken care of?

GLEN TIPPETTS: It depends on the shoe actually. The range of shoe quality, it ranges anywhere from very cheap (they’re still made out of leather) to very expensive.

So, for example, I could buy a pair of shoes that—and I won’t mention brands necessarily—might cost $100 (and that might be considered expensive [inaudible 08:39], but that would be a low-end shoe. It would typically what we’d call corrected grain shoe. It has a lot of finish on it to cover up any flaws in the leather and give it a more smooth and shiny look) to a very expensive shoe that might cost $1600. It’s a leather that’s dyed all the way through and has very little finish on whatsoever.

And so there’s quite a broad range.

Also, how the shoe is made or manufactured and so forth makes a big difference, how the shoe is [inaudible 09:18] and attached and what the sole, how it’s done and so forth. All those define the quality of the shoe and how long it will last.

And so, at a certain point, you don’t gain any life. But I would say that the $100 shoe is going to last maybe two or three years where the $1800 shoe is going to last you probably 20.

DEBRA: Yes. And so, an investment in a leather shoe, if you look at the alternative of what a lot of people are wearing today—and they’re just wearing vinyl shoes that crack and wear out that don’t last more than a few years—a good leather shoe well-maintained could last a long time and not have to be replaced.

We have to go to break. You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. My guest today is Glen Tippets, co-founder of GlenKaren Premium Shoe Care Products. And when we come back, we’ll be talking about the toxic chemicals in ordinary shoe polish and the wonderful, non-toxic, natural, biodegradable, et cetera, shoe polish that Glen and Karen came up with.


DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. My guest today is Glen Tippets. He’s the co-founder of GlenKaren Premium Shoe Care Products.

Glen, I want to read something that I found on the Internet about shoe polish. Maybe it’ll have some information that you may not be familiar with, but maybe you already know all these, but I know our listeners don’t.

This is from an interesting website called Dr. Chemical. I think this is from Australia. It says Chemistry in the Real World. I’m going to have to explore this site some more because it talks about chemicals in consumer products—and this is a chemist. He says:

Is shoe polish safe? How could something as common as shoe polish not be safe?”

Well, unfortunately, some shoe polish has a chemical in it that shouldn’t be there. And it’s all our fault.

This is an interesting story. He says that:

The chemicals that are in consumer products are not necessarily the best chemicals for the job. They are the chemicals that we think, the public thinks, are the best chemicals for the job. We are sold what we think we want rather than what we need.

And he says:

“The single best example of that is shoe polish.”

So, here’s a case where there actually was a less toxic product, but as you’ll see, the general public wouldn’t buy it.

He says that:

The older type of shoe polish is a mixture of oils and waxes that you rub with a stiff brush, allowed to dried and then [inaudible 12:07] to a shine. When these were developed years ago, the best solvent to dissolve all the oils and waxes was a chemical called nitro benzene. It was known at the time that it was toxic—

But what they knew was that it was a chronic toxin where that makes you sick over time, many exposures over time. But it wasn’t acutely toxic which means like gasoline was acutely toxic. If you were to drink it, you could get really sick or die.

And so, they decided to go ahead and use it because at this particular time in history, they didn’t know that these chemicals that are chronic build up over time and then people get sick.

And this is a lot of what’s going on right now with our health. We’ve been exposed to all these chemicals like nitro benzene and DDT and all these different things where they cause problems over time. And now the time has gone by.

As some of you may remember, I know in my lifetime, when I was born, people thought it was okay to smoke cigarettes. And it took 30 years of smoking cigarettes for cancer to develop. And so then the 30 years went by, lots of people were smoking a lot, and suddenly people started saying, “Oh, well, it’s toxic.”

And that’s what’s happening with a lot of chemicals. Suddenly, time has gone by, and now we’re seeing how they’re affecting us.

So, he said that a few years later, they developed another shoe polish that was completely odorless. Nobody believed that it was actually shoe polish because it didn’t smell like shoe polish. And so they put the nitro benzene back in.

When I read that, I thought, “That’s what I was smelling as a child. It was nitro benzene coming off of my father’s shoes.” And yet that’s what we think shoe polish smells like.

This is just an example of how we continue to keep toxic chemicals in products because that’s what we think they should smell like. And this Dr. Chemical who’s a chemist says you should always wear gloves when using it. You should always use it in a well-ventilated area. It’s toxic.

GLEN TIPPETTS: Yeah, let me address that. Basically, a shoe polish consists of four main ingredients. It consists of a solvent.

It consists of oil. It consists of wax and a coloring agent.

The solvents are basically to keep the wax soft, so it’s not like you’re not trying to use a candle to basically polish your shoes.

And so there’s a fair amount of solvent in shoe polish. The most common chemical, the most common solvent is naphtha which is basically like gasoline. And that’s the smell that you smell on a polish. That’s been around for probably 30 years or so or more. And so that’s the toxic smell that you smell, the solvent.

It’s also highly flammable. And so that’s the other aspect of that […]

And then what’s happened is some of the companies that are trying to make a higher grade or a better quality shoe polish, they replaced that solvent with turpentine which is basically from pine trees. And so it still has that turpentine smell. It’s not as bad as naphtha. It’s not a gasoline smell. But it still has that strong chemical smell to it from turpentine.

And that’s the issue that my wife was having with the smell. And of course, with the number of shoes I have, I was polishing my shoes fairly frequently. So she kind of got tired of smelling that all the time [inaudible 16:27]. So that’s why I had to figure out a better solvent to make the polish out of.

And I’ve used orange oil in the past. And so I knew it would work well as a solvent. I did some research and so forth. And it’s a type of orange oil which is what they call d-limonene which is a mono terpene out of the orange oil. And it’s at a food grade level. They actually use it in food additives and so forth.

And so I chose that as a solvent mainly because of the smell. And also, I wanted to create a shoe polish that was the best shoe polish. I mean, I had a nice collection. I don’t want to just pick some stuff […] So I spent a lot of time figuring out what would be the best ingredients to use. And it ended up being a natural ingredient.

For example, the oil that I use is coconut oil. It actually lasts longer. It has a longer shelf life than any other oil in existence other than the mineral oil. Mineral oil is a derivative of a petroleum, so I don’t really care for that. I like the coconut oil.

So, those are the two things that’s in there. I use the same wax pretty much that they use in shoe polish which is beeswax and carnauba wax. And then, the coloring I use, I wanted to avoid chemicals again. I actually went to a natural earth and ochre pigment. It’s basically dirt, the color of dirt.

DEBRA: We need to go to break, but we’ll be back and talk more about shoe polish and shoes and how to be natural after the break. This is Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. My guest today is Glen Tippets, co-founder of GlenKaren Premium

Shoe Care Products. We’ll be right back.


DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. My guest today is Glen Tippets, co-founder of GlenKaren Premium Shoe Care Products.

Before the break, we were talking about the ingredients that go in your products. Can you run those by again?

GLEN TIPPETTS: Sure! There are four basic things in shoe polish—solvents, oil, wax and color. And so for the shoe polish that I make, the solvent I use is a food grade orange oil. The oil is a coconut oil. And the waxes are beeswax and carnauba wax. And the color is an earth and ochre pigment which looks like a dirt.

The pigment is the same pigment that’s used in paint that are toxic-free. They use the same pigment I’m using […] for the shoe polish.

DEBRA: So, tell us what goes into maintaining a leather shoe. I see that you have three products. Tell us about your three products and how and why each of them is used.

GLEN TIPPETTS: Oh, okay. The main product, the main line is the cream polish. And that’s the type of polish you use on a typical leather shoe to get oils into it, to put some wax on to protect it and to shine it. And so it’s the same purpose, basically the normal maintenance of keeping the shoe in good repair and that type of thing.

There’s a cleaner/conditioner that is designed—it’s higher in orange oil and coconut oil. For example, if you have shoes that have been stored for a long time or have been exposed to some conditioners that you’d rather not have exposed them to […], you can use this to basically take off some of the coats of wax, and then add some oils to it and apply new wax. So that’s what’s the cleaner/conditioner does.

It’s used infrequently, but it’s used to basically bring a shoe that isn’t in good repair back in good repair. It’s good for old boots or old shoes or that type of stuff. And it doesn’t hurt to, about every year or so, clean off the layers of wax you might’ve put on while polishing your shoe over the years and so forth. And so that’s the purpose of the cleaner/conditioner.

The other product is very specific. In men’s shoes, you have a thing called a spit shiner or a bull. In Europe, it’s called “bulling a toe.” In here, it’s called “spit shine.” But the idea is—

Let me go back to the question you asked about the military thing. In the military, one of the things that you want to do is you want to spit shine your boots. And the way you do that is you put a very, very hard shell of wax basically on the shoe.

But you can only do that on parts of the shoe or boot that don’t flex. And so, when shoes are made, you have the quarters, you have the vamp and so forth. And all those are flexible areas of the shoe. But in the toe and the heel—

In the toe, you have what’s called a toecap, which is actually a hard piece of plastic or leather, whatever else they used to manufacture that shoes, that hardens that toe so it doesn’t flex. The leather doesn’t flex. That’s not true of all shoes, but it’s true for business type shoes, tap type shoes and that type of thing.

And the heels, the same type of thing. It’s what’s called a heel counter. That heel counter stiffens the heel and so forth so it doesn’t flex.

And so because that leather doesn’t flex, you can actually put a harder coat of polish on it to get the shine. So the harder the wax, the smoother you can make it, the higher the shine.

And so the clean polish doesn’t have as hard a wax on it. It can create a glow shine on the shoe and look very nice. But if you want to get a spit shine on the toe or the heel and so forth, then you need to have something that has a harder wax in it. And so the high shine paste, it has more carnauba in it and less oils in it to allow it to create that hard shell.

I worked quite a while in getting the ratio just right. And the high shine actually will put a spit shine on it faster than any of the polish on the market (other than perhaps one of those liquid polishes that no one should use).

So, that’s the purpose of the three different types of polish.

DEBRA: Can you tell us something about the process of going from idea to developing a product and marketing it, having it and selling it. I think that there’s a lot of opportunity right now for people to come up with non-toxic products like this. People say, “Oh, I’m using this toxic thing. Why can’t somebody come up with this non-toxic alternative?”

And so tell me something about your story. Once you decided that you needed a non-toxic product, how did that go?

GLEN TIPPETTS: First of all, I knew how shoe polish is made because I have a history of researching that and trying to figure out what I was putting on my shoes. So I had a good understanding of what specifically was in it.

But I didn’t originally even think of making my own shoe polish because I was using all the various products in the market and trying to find the best one and so forth. And it wasn’t until my wife complained about the smell and said, “You’re going to have to take that to the garage or something” and there was no way I was going to spend my evenings in the garage, so I had to come up with a solution.

And so that’s when I considered the orange oil and so forth. And once I considered the orange oil, then it was a matter of “Well, as long as I’m going natural, it might be a good idea to make the product all natural.” But I didn’t want to have it be just the driving force because shoes are important to me. I needed to create something that’s a very good polish, the best I could make, and then find what natural ingredients would work with that.

And interestingly enough, natural ingredients tend to be more expensive than chemicals. And so, it was more expensive to make. But my driving force wasn’t “Can I put this in the market and make a lot of money?” My driving force was “Can I make a really good polish that was also natural?” And so that’s how that came about, my mindset.

Now, the marketing aspect of that is that I spent a fair amount of time on a website, a forum, called Style Forum, It’s a very popular forum. It’s basically for men, clothing, shoes and so forth. It gets a lot of traffic. There are a lot of people that had knowledge in that forum, a lot of people that are trying to learn in that forum and so forth.

And so when a thread was started—not by me actually—on how to care for your shoes properly […]. I think it probably had close to 600,000 views on it so far…


GLEN TIPPETTS: Yeah, yeah. It’s a popular thread. I post on that quite frequently, and I’ve been a member of forum for years.

I came across this concept of, well, why don’t I just make my own polish. That’s why I needed to do it. It [sidesteps] the issue with the smell with my wife and I can create something I really think is good and will work for my shoes.

And so I brought it up in the forum with some of the members. And they liked the idea. I started getting the members buying the product and so forth. They would tell their friends. And it just kind of evolved from there.

DEBRA: We need to go to break. But we’ll hear more about this when we come back. This is Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. My guest today is Glen Tippets, co-founder of GlenKaren Premium Shoe Care Products. We’ll talk more when we come back.


DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. My guest today is Glen Tippets, co-founder of GlenKaren Premium Shoe Care Products, an all natural shoe care product line, the best shoe care product line for leather shoes, mostly men shoes.

Are there any women shoes where they need to polish their shoes? Do they even exist anymore?

GLEN TIPPETTS: Oh, certainly! Any shoe that has some leather can benefit from oils and waxes. And you can easily tell simply by opening up the shoe and looking on the inside, typically on the quarter or the vamp, there’ll be a little stamp there that says “man-made material” or “leather” or whatever the material is made of. It will typically say “[inaudible 27:25]” or “made of leather” or that type of thing. And so if it’s [inaudible 27:29], then you’re really not going to benefit much from shoe polish.

DEBRA: No. My leather shoes, they’re so soft. They’re not suede, but they’re very soft leather. But would they benefit just from the oils and waxes to keep it supple and in good condition?

GLEN TIPPETTS: Oh, certainly.

DEBRA: See, I never even thought of that. Hmmm…

Okay! So, I’m interested to know, between the idea and the marketing to the people in your forum, there’s the manufacture of this product. Are you mixing up little batches at home or do you have somebody make it for you?

I’m trying to give people an idea of if they have an idea and want to start a small business making some unusual product like this that it’s something that’s doable.

GLEN TIPPETTS: Yes, most definitely. Part of the reason that I went with natural ingredients is that there’s a lot less regulation around that. [inaudible 28:31] that covers chemicals and so forth. It doesn’t address any of the chemicals that are in my shoe polish and that type of thing.

Yeah, I actually do make them in small batches in my kitchen. I can do about two cases an hour when I need to. I make about 20 cases of the various colors and of the high shine cleaner/conditioner. And I just ship it right out of my house.

And so typically, I’ll ship one to four jars. That’s typical. Every once in a while, I’ll ship a case or two to someone that’s looking to be a dealer. I just shipped four cases to Sweden.

And I sell pretty much everything off the website which is And then I also use my blog to promote it. And my blog is more of a general shoe care type of blog which is And so I use those as my marketing. I don’t do a lot of marketing. I really haven’t put a lot of time into it, promoting it. I’m kind of letting the concept grow organically first and have it evolve. At some point, I would like someone to help me do it. And then, at some point, I’d like to make this a full-time career. But right now, it’s kind of evolving from a hobby and to more of a [inaudible 30:06] time to it.

DEBRA: Yes. Well, that’s how things grow. I remember when I started doing what I do more than 30 years ago, I started out just by finding any toxic free product I could find and writing it on a 3 x 5 card. I put them on a shoebox, and that was it! And I wrote my first book from that shoe box. At that time, there was not very much to choose from. And now, I can hardly keep up with it. There’s so many new products. And I think that that’s great. And I would love it too that I would not have a job anymore because we live in a world that’s totally non-toxic and that I don’t have to tell anybody about toxic chemicals. That would make me perfectly happy.

I love what I do. I love what I do. I just think it would be great to outgrow it just because I’ve accomplished my mission. We’re getting closer every day.


DEBRA: So, we just have a few minutes left. Is there anything that you want to say? I mean, we have more than two minutes.

We’ve got a few minutes. Is there anything else you’d like to talk about that we haven’t covered?

GLEN TIPPETTS: No, I don’t think so. It would be nice to kind of say something along the lines of I hope more people took better care of their shoes. They would last longer and they would appreciate them more. And using a natural product I think is a great way to do that. So if people want to check out the product, my website which is have a lot of information about how the shoe polish is made, what’s in it, [inaudible 31:47] and some examples of how it’s been used and that type of thing. I would definitely ask people to go there and learn more.

And then, the other website which is the, that’s been around for a couple of years where I’ve actually posted articles relatively frequently about all kinds of things—shoe care, how to measure your foot, everything about shoes that I can think of. My latest post was about the proper way to brush your shoe or polish your shoe. There’s actually a technique or a proper technique to polish your shoe with your shoe brush.

And so there’s a lot of really useful information there just about shoe care in general and shoes in general, types of leather, types of finishes and all that kind of stuff. So, if people are interested in that, there’s a lot of useful information about shoes and shoe care in general on that site.

So, that’s all I could think to tell you.

DEBRA: Okay! Well, thank you for being with us.

GLEN TIPPETTS: Thank you for having me.

DEBRA: That was very interesting. And good luck with your venture. I’m really glad that I discovered you because I think you have a great product and it’s certainly needed.

GLEN TIPPETTS: Well, thank you.

DEBRA: You’re welcome. You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. And if you’d like to know more about this show, is the place to go. I have done more than a hundred shows(maybe about 150 by now). But all of the shows are in the archives. You can listen to them any time you want to listen to them, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. I’ve got all kinds of guests. Some of them, like Glen, have made a business out of creating a toxic-free product, other people are working in regulations, other people are doctors or chemists. There’s just so much information. These really are the people who are out there in the world doing something to make the world more toxic-free.

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I’ve been working a lot this week—well, not just this week, but intensively this week—because I’m in the process of restructuring my website. I’m hoping that by next week, I’ll be able to launch it. it looks like that that’s going to happen. I’m actually working from morning until 11 o’clock at night. I’m getting the website done, so that you’ll be able to have all that information.

So, remember, You can go listen to the past shows in the Archives blog. Thank you for being with me. This is Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd.


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