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Pamela SeefeldToday my guest is Pamela Seefeld, R.Ph, a registered pharmacist who prefers to dispense medicinal plants and other natural substances instead of prescription drugs. We’ll be talking about pH. Pamela has given me and I think everyone she works with dropper bottles of “pH booster” and she has often mentioned this in past shows. Today she’ll explain what pH is, why your body should be more alkaline for good health, and why she gives pH booster to everyone. Pamela has more than 25 years experience choosing and selling top quality medicinal supplements, so she’s seen it all. Pamela is a 1990 graduate of the University of Florida College of Pharmacy, where she studied Pharmacognosy (the study of medicines derived from plants and other natural sources). She has worked as an integrative pharmacist teaching physicians, pharmacists and the general public about the proper use of botanicals. She is also a grant reviewer for NIH in Washington D.C. and the owner of Botanical Resource and Botanical Resource Med Spa in Clearwater,









The Power of pH

Host: Debra Lynn Dadd
Guest: Pamela Seefeld, R.Ph

Date of Broadcast: August 12, 2015

DEBRA: Hi, I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. This is Toxic Free Talk Radio where we talk about how to thrive in a toxic world and live toxic-free. It’s Wednesday, August 12th 2015. I’m here in Clearwater, Florida.

Today, we are going to be talking about pH, which is interesting and an important thing for everybody to understand because it affects how our bodies utilize nutrients, it affects how our bodies detox and we’re going to be hearing about that with my guest, Pamela Seefeld, who’s on every other Wednesday.

But before I introduce Pamela, I just want to tell all of you something that’s going on in my life personally. I am telling you this because I want you to all take it to heart what I’m about to say.

A friend of mine was admitted to the hospital on Monday. I took him to the hospital. He’s being diagnosed probably today, but it looks like it’s cancer. He has cancer in an area of his body that doesn’t usually develop cancer. So, it’s likely (although it hasn’t been diagnosed yet) it’s likely he has cancer in some other area of his body and it’s gone to this other area.

Here’s the thing. He does absolutely nothing. Even though he knows me and I talk about this all the time, he does absolutely nothing to prevent exposure to the chemicals that cause cancer. He does a little bit about his diet, he exercises a lot (which is a good thing), but he’s exposed all the time to chemicals that cause cancer.

And the thing about this is nobody has to get cancer.

There’s so much that’s known about cancer and the chemicals that cause it. In fact, I’m talking with a doctor who’s probably going to be coming on. We haven’t set the date yet, but I’m trying to get her to come because all she does is look for the toxic chemicals that cause cancer. And so, we’ll be talking about that.

But even without that show, even if she doesn’t come on the show, there are books that tell you these are the chemicals that cause cancer.

You can go to my website and you can find products that do not contain any of these chemicals. There’s no reason why anybody has to have cancer.

So, when I see people around me – and it’s not just my friend. Within the past couple of weeks, I was talking to a guest who’s been on the show about something else entirely. At the end of the conversation, she says, “I just have to ask you, I was just diagnosed with breast cancer.

What can I do?”

And so all of you who do not have cancer right now and whose loved ones do not have cancer right now, make sure that you do the things that we are talking about on the show. Eat the right foods, detox your body, get the chemicals out of your houses, get the chemicals out of your workplaces and do not get cancer in the first place! I’m going to get off my soapbox now. Hi, Pamela!

PAMELA SEEFELD: Hey, Debra! I’m sorry about your friend. I hope everything works out okay.

DEBRA: I’m hoping so too. It’s just right now it’s unknown because we are still waiting to hear the severity of the situation and then we’ll have to figure out what we can do. Anyway, I’ll be talking to you about that.

PAMELA SEEFELD: Yeah, I see a lot of cancer patients and I definitely can help that individual. There are homeopathic things that work very, very well that can pull out cancer cells that legally, chemotherapy might not be able to target.

DEBRA: Yeah. Alright, good! Maybe in the future, you and I will do a show about cancer and you can tell all of us. In fact, let’s do it…
PAMELA SEEFELD: I think that’s a good idea! No, absolutely because it’s timely. More and more people during their lifetime is going to have some kind of cancer. So, it’s a prevalent thing.

DEBRA: Well, let’s do it. We had scheduled another topic for two weeks from now, but let’s do it two weeks from now.


DEBRA: And then, we’ll push everything else back.


DEBRA: Okay, good. I’ll take a deep breath now.

PAMELA SEEFELD: I know! It’s a…

DEBRA: Yeah. So, Pamela what I did was I went through all your back shows and I read all the transcripts. Well, I didn’t read all of them. I searched all your transcripts for anything that you’ve said about pH in the past. Let’s start in the first segment. I know you have a lot of information about pH and why it’s so important. But then when we get to the second, third and fourth segments, I want to pull out, I want to tell you things I found that you’ve said in the past and let’s talk about those three areas in more detail.


DEBRA: Okay, good! Why don’t you start by telling us what is pH?

PAMELA SEEFELD: Okay! That’s good! So, pH is a figure expressing acidity or alkalinity of a solution and it’s on a logarithmic scale.

So, seven is considered neutral. Anything above that is considered basic and anything below that is considered more acidic. Most of the time, that just give you a good reference point for water. We all drink water. Most water that you are going to get out of a tap or bottled water is probably going to be a pH of between, let’s say, 4.5 to 7.5, 8 maybe, something like that unless you’re drinking alkaline water itself.

I’ve actually tested some bottled waters. And Dasani, actually, is extremely acidic. I’m not sure exactly what’s in there. But it could test to pH of almost one or two. So, you get to really know what you’re drinking even if you think you’re drinking something that’s pretty safe. There’s a lot of acidity in some of the water products.

DEBRA: And that’s going to be one of my questions we’re going to talk about later.

PAMELA SEEFELD: Yeah. It’s important to test. You can get a full kit. We have a little kit that we use with the Alkalife Drops. They are not that expensive. You can test the pH of whatever water you’re drinking. It’s probably a good idea just as a reference point especially if you’re going to be using any kind of pH boosters.

But the thing that is important about PH (now that we understand the scale) is that there’s different relationships between what you’re eating and the pH of these products and how it affects your bone health, cancer and a lot of different things.

So, I went through the last National Library of Medicine and looked for the recent medical articles that pertained to pH and I was really actually pleasantly surprised because pH is really a subject that – and the chemistry, when we talk about pH, the pH of drugs and vitamins and so forth, that’s a pharmacy background that I pertain to.

But I was really surprised, pleasantly surprised that there’s so many articles that show what foods you eat, certain things in your diet, what you’re doing affecting your pH and your general health. That was very, very important to me, to find something that has some scientific background that shows that what we’re talking about has a lot of relevance.

DEBRA: Okay.

PAMELA SEEFELD: Yeah. So, I’ll just pick up some different things. There’s one study that’s just recently published. They were investigating the relationship between your urine pH to which it’s directly related to what you’re consuming and the contribution of fruits and vegetables. So, higher fruits and vegetables intake and lower consumption of meat translated into a more alkaline pH.

So, we hear a lot of alternative practitioners talking about eating vegetables, cutting back on red meat, things like that affecting pH, but there’s actually scientific proof that that’s true. That’s not some sort of a made up situation. That’s more effective than we were prone to think in the past.

Dietary determinants of bone health also include micronutrients and bioactives found in fruits and vegetables. So, the pH is definitely affecting bone density. The reason why is because of, first of all, the micronutrients in the food, but also the outcome of more basic pH as a result.

This water study that I looked up, increasing nine or more servings of fruits and vegetables for five days a week, the net endogenous acid production (that’s the amount that your body actually makes) decreases significantly.

So, statistically significant mean urine pH (mean, the average) increased by 0.68% in midlife women (so we’re talking about women in menopausal years) pH increased bone density.

So, this is really important and I’m still a really a big fan of even using a pH booster because you could be eating a very vegetarian-type diet and still maybe your pH is not up as much as you want. It just depends on stress levels, cortisol, one of the things that affect your pH.

I like Alkalife, that’s the one that I used the most. I’ve tried several different ones. That one seems to go to the highest. When you use Alkalife, ten drops a day and you place in your water bottle, the pH of that water will test out to 13. That’s the highest under the pH scale.

There are lots of alkalinizing systems that people use in their house or they buy alkaline water. A lot of those systems go to 9 or 10. So, many times I’d like to go to 13 and the drops are inexpensive and they last probably six months like $25 dollars. It’s an inexpensive way to modify what you’re eating as well.

DEBRA: So, you mentioned how you could test the pH of the water, are there ways to test the pH in your body? So, that you can see the corresponding…

PAMELA SEEFELD: That’s a good question. The things that you would have to test is the pH of your urine and pH of the water you’re drinking. That’s the most probably the most indicative. Your pH of your blood and your body in itself, your body is going to maintain its neutral pH. How it does that is by taking calcium out of the bones if you’re too acidic. Calcium is big buffer. It changes the pH, makes it more basic. Electrolytes as well.

DEBRA: Okay, good! We need to go to a break and when we come back, I want you tell what we can do so we can test our bodies before count about anything else.

You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio, I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. My guest today is Pamela Seefeld. She’s a registered pharmacist who prefers to dispense medicinal plants and other natural substances instead of prescription drugs. You can go to her website, and find out more. When we come back, we’ll talk more about pH.


DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. My guest today is Pamela Seefeld. She’s a registered pharmacist who prefers to dispense medicinal plants and other natural substances instead of prescription drugs. Pamela, before we go on why don’t you tell people how they can get a free consultation with you.

PAMELA SEEFELD: Okay, great! So, you can call me here at my pharmacy. This is for consultation. The number here is 727-442-4955. That’s 727-442-4955. I would be greatly honored to help you and you’re family with any of your healthcare needs that you may have and also for your animals too.

DEBRA: And she’s really good! Everybody around here that I have talked to has said how wonderful she is. Our local MDs, my MD, I told him that I was taking something that Pamela gave me and he said, “Just do what Pamela tells you to do.” So, she’s really very highly regarded here.

Now, tell us what we can do to measure the pH in our bodies so that as we’re doing different things to improve our pH, we can see if we’re making progress.

PAMELA SEEFELD: Okay. So, they actually sell urine pH test kit strips. I’ve just checked it in the computer. You can go and get just the regular strips from the pool store or you can order a kit and they have these kits that you can test it.

What’s important to realize is that you want to have a baseline. This is what see in the hospitals. When someone comes in and maybe they’ve been hyperventilating, maybe there septic, they’re very sick, they have an infection all through their body, these people, their acid/base balance is going to be off. It’ll show up. And how they measure that most of the time is with the arterial blood gasses. You can tell what’s going on with the person if they’re too acidic just specifically from that.

So, a regular person walking around won’t have that issue. There’s not going to be any of that unless you’re very sick. Maybe you have a bad COPD, like I said, respiratory issues. When you’re blowing off carbon dioxide, you’re breathing in oxygen, that exchange, if someone is doing it rapidly or if it’s too shallow, if the person’s not breathing at all, of course, it’s going to change the pH of the body. That’s in those realms. But most people are not going to have a problem with that.

What we see though is that the things you’re eating and taking the pH drops to boost it are going to have these long-term effects. Most specifically, I’d like to really emphasize that it’s looking that it’s going to help build bone density more than anything. There are lots of different things and we can talk about detoxing as well, but bone density is very important.

So, the things that you’re eating, say you’re taking a calcium supplement and you’re eating pretty well, a pH booster (and I’ve done this quite a bit with people) can reverse osteopenia and osteoporosis just doing that. A lot of the calcium, like I said, if a person’s diet is primarily acidic foods, then what you’re going to have is calcium coming out into the bloodstream.

And I see this a lot. I can always tell when somebody is eating all meat. People on this Atkins diet and all they eat is protein at every meal, they don’t eat any vegetables, their calcium levels always come back like 110, 10.5, really high. These people, they’re going to the kidney doctor and I’m like, “Look, if they’re eating meat all they long, this is what your body if going to have.” The body has to adjust its pH in all these calcium leaving the bones. These people are going to end up with very, very brittle bones.

So, I don’t recommend these all-protein diets. If you’re doing it for the short-term, for some fat weight loss, that’s okay. But for a long-term, it’s very, very dangerous.

DEBRA: Well, calcium was one of my three questions that we have talked about before. We did a whole show in calcium and you said that – let’s see where is it. I didn’t highlight it. But you were talking about taking alkaline supplement, the alkaline booster so that it would work better.


DEBRA: So, I guess my question was does that hold true for any supplement, that if you’re taking supplements of any kind, if you take a pH adjuster, that they’ll become incorporated better?

PAMELA SEEFELD: That’s an excellent question! From what I’m seeing from the research, the micronutrients and the vegetables, if you’re having a multi-vitamin (let’s say a green multi-vitamin, whole food), you’re doing the same thing whether you’re having a big salad or you’re taking it in a pill.

It’s the micronutrients you’re getting. You’re getting the B vitamins, all these different things we get from our food. We get them from our supplements and we take them sometimes in single amounts depending of what we want to take – vitamin E, a multi-vitamin has a whole array of these things. And yes, that will affect that because what we’re seeing is that the micronutrients and the bioactives that are found in fruits and vegetables or in your vitamins that you’re taking, these components have enhanced bioavailability into the body when more alkaline pH is present in the body. That’s really important.

In fact, I even found something I’ve been talking about, diet-induced generation of acidity. So, what if your diets give you a more acidic outcome in your body? A lot of it was determined by the metabolism of proteins. These proteins of course are the amino acids. And specifically, methionine and cysteine are amino acids found in proteins that you eat. I thought it was pretty interesting that metabolism or the oxidation of it in the body is what directly leads to an acidic pH.

So, eating meat – and I’m not against meat. I eat a lot of turkey and chicken. This is directly involved and apparently, a lot of this happens directly in the intestine. So, that can really affect the acidity of your body. So, pH drops are really a good way to say, “Okay, I’m going to start preserving some bone health.”

Also, too, I’d like to bring up a point that there’s some interesting information that I found in some of the studies, but kidney stones. And kidney stones, it’s related to pH and you’ll see where I’m going with this.

Kidney stones are highly dependent on dietary acid load. So, if you’re taking acidic foods and your body is predominantly acidic, you’re going to have more calcium stone disease. And why is that the case? Let’s think about this. The calcium is not in the bones, it’s coming out to the bloodstream, it’s buffering in the blood stream. And then, because the person might be slightly dehydrated, it starts concentrating in the kidneysin excess calcium.

So, the person that’s eating protein at every meal and they’re doing Atkins and they’re not eating their vegetables because they’re trying to lose weight fast, what happens is they’re concentrating these acidic components. Remember, the protein, the amino acids causing all these problems?

And then, the calcium is another added problem. It’s coming out into the bloodstream. So, you have the process of the oxidation of those amino acids causing more acidity and then you’re having the problem of having concentrated calcium shifting out into the bones. So, the person’s short-term acute effects are going to be a predominance of more formation of kidney stones and the long term effects, of course, are going to be severe bone loss. And the studies concur on these. This is what’s really happening.

DEBRA: Yeah.

PAMELA SEEFELD: So, the drops for being so inexpensive and just changing your diet slightly makes such a huge difference. I don’t know why people wouldn’t embrace this. I really don’t.

DEBRA: Yeah, especially, there’s so much that says that for your body to be more alkaline leads to better health and for it to be more acid is contributing to disease. There’s just a lot of that. So, we’ll talk more about this when we come back.

You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. My guest today is Pamela Seefeld. She’s a registered pharmacist, but she prefers to work with natural substances. We’ll be right back.


DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. My guest today is Pamela Seefeld, registered pharmacist who likes to use natural remedies. We’re talking about pH because Pamela gives – I think everybody. Do everybody gets alkaline booster?

PAMELA SEEFELD: Pretty much, yes.

DEBRA: Yeah.

PAMELA SEEFELD: I think it’s just really highly effective and it’s inexpensive. Really, a lot of people will use these systems in their house, they’re thousands of dollars. The drops are $25 and it’ll last almost half a year. I think it’s an easy, inexpensive way to just change a general health for the better.

DEBRA: Yeah, I think so too. I’ve been taking them ever since I’ve known you. How long have I known you now? A year or something?


DEBRA: Yeah, about that. I’ve been taking that as well as the other things that you’ve been giving me and I totally agree.
But I want to talk about water during this segment because you’ve talked a little bit about it in the beginning and also you’ve talked about it in the past on another show. So, I’ll just repeat what you said which was the normal pH of your water is going to be between 3 ½ and 7 1/2 .


DEBRA: …and that you’ve measured these things and that you mentioned about bottled water especially Dasani and that you had it tested and turned out to be 1. Then on the other show, you said that it’s the same pH of Coke.

PAMELA SEEFELD: It is and that’s just floored me. What I had done (and this is just for my own reference), I went to the grocery store and bought seven different kinds. I came back here and I tested them all. I wanted to know. If I don’t have a reference point, your people could say, “I’m drinking Zephyrhills or I’m drinking Dasani or I’m drinking the VitaminWater,” whatever. I wanted to know and the only way to know is to test it.

And the fact that Dasani has an acidic pH, to me, I don’t understand what’s in the water. I think they’re just bottling something right out of the tap.

DEBRA: Well, actually, I think they are and that’s part of the problem of most bottled waters is that the regulations are such – just the way things are in the bottled water industry is that some of it are coming out of the spring and some of it is coming deep underground or whatever. And a lot of it, especially if it’s labeled ‘drinking water’ and not ‘spring water’, they’re supposed to label it as to the source, but instead of saying, “This is coming out of the tap,” they call it drinking water.

PAMELA SEEFELD: I think it’s misleading intentionally.

DEBRA: I think so too! And so, consumers really need to watch out for this. I thought it was really great that you measured the pH of all of these waters because it really shows the difference. You can’t just pick a bottle of water off the shelf and expect to all of them to be the same because they’re not. They are very different in terms of what toxic chemicals might be in them, very different in their pH, very different to what their source is. So, if you’re going to drink a bottle of water, then do some research and get the best one that you can.

I very rarely drink bottled water. I’ll just say that the water filter that I recommend that is always being advertised on this show (and I think the commercial coming up), it adjusts for the proper pH. So, the pH of the water that comes out of this filter is actually the pH of water in the natural ecosystem, the Earth. It’s not pH that comes out of the tap. It’s the natural pH of water.

And I’ll just say, that the prices are going up on this water filter on August 15th, so if you’re interested on buying one, now is the time to buy one. So, just listen up for the commercial.

PAMELA SEEFELD: That’s a really good point. The water filter that you use is going to make a huge difference as far as the quality of the water that you’re drinking.

DEBRA: Right.

PAMELA SEEFELD: Bottomline. And the pH drops can only be so much. But if you’re at a situation where you’re working some place and you have to buy bottled water on the machine, pH drops are a really great way to inexpensively boost it up and try and get that acidity down and try and get it more alkaline.

So, it’s really just a small bottle. You could even keep it in your purse and take it when you’re out to dinner, whatever you want to do. You could always the pH of the water and improve your overall health.

Now, I wanted to ask you something. You were talking about cancer and I want to let you know that there was one study that I looked at that was just recently published about cancer and pH. They had 142,000 men and they had 335,000 women. This is in Europe.

This is interesting. They found a decrease risk of cancer associated with high vegetable intake. Intakes of fruits showed weaker association for preventing of cancer, but there was still some data.

I thought this is interesting. They looked at different kinds of cancer. Cancers of the upper GI were lessened with fruit intake, but not vegetables. This is really strange stuff. Look at this. And risk of colorectal cancer was decreased with fruits, vegetables and fiber. Liver cancer, total intake of fiber was the only statistical significant decrease of cancer. Liver cancer was fiber, only fiber. The other things did not pan out.

For lung cancer with people that smoked, it seemed that they had decreased risk if they were eating fruits, but not vegetables. And then, breast cancer, there was only fiber that seem to be the direct correlation. And what’s interesting, stomach cancer, biliary pancreas, the cervix, endometrium, prostate, kidney, bladder, no association with fruits, vegetables and fiber.


PAMELA SEEFELD: I’m not sure how to all interpret this, but I thought it was very, very interesting that in smokers, a person with lung cancer was greatly decreased with fruits but the vegetables had no significance. What this kind of told me is that when you’re eating a lot of vegetables, you’re getting a lot of fiber anyway. So, what does this mean?

The bottomline is, maybe if you’re thinking, “Oh, I’m really at risk for liver cancer. That means I need more fiber,” it all comes down to all these things you’re eating (the fiber, the vegetables, the fruit), these things are important components of a regular diet that can protect against these diseases.

DEBRA: Yeah. Yes, exactly! Exactly! So, before we go to break because it’s coming up in about a minute in a half, I wanted to mention one more thing about water and that is what you said in another show. You said, “When you have dehydration, you become more acidic.”

PAMELA SEEFELD: Correct! And the reason why that is is because when dehydration sets in, first of all, your hemo concentrate all these electrolytes and what happens too is the body starts shifting calcium out as well because when the acidity happens (that’s when we were talking about the kidney stones and the prevalence of the kidney stones) is it’s not just the fact that the person is concentrating the urine, it’s also the fact that what those particular amino acids that we were talking about and the change in the body, it’s making the person more acidic. So, yes, being dehydrated is definitely a risk factor.

DEBRA: Yeah, it is. But the point I wanted to make is that – like I do a lot of research about water. Water a big subject for me particularly because of detox, the detox effects of water. There’s a wonderful book called Your Body’s Many Cries for Water. It talks about how everybody is walking around being dehydrated all the time and that we are not drinking enough water to actually hydrate our body.

PAMELA SEEFELD: I have three copies of it, I love it!

DEBRA: Yeah, I love that book! That’s one of my favorite books of all time.


DEBRA: Yeah and so, that’s why I’m so interested that you said, “When you’re dehydrated, you become more acidic.” The fact that people just aren’t drinking enough water, it’s making their bodies more acidic on a daily basis and that’s leading to ill health, just that thing right there. Whether it’s pH, alkaline or acid, just the fact that you’re not drinking water, makes you more acidic.

So, listen up for this water filter commercial and get one before August 15th while the price is still low. You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd. My guest today is Pamela Seefeld. We’re talking about pH. We’ll be right back.


DEBRA: You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio. I’m Debra Lynn Dadd and my guest today is Pamela Seefeld. We’re talking about pH, which is the acidity or alkalinity of your body and how that affects your health and how your body functions.

So Pamela, there was another show where you said that, “The pH balance makes a big difference in the way heavy metals are released out of the body with detox products.”


DEBRA: So, let’s talk about that some more.

PAMELA SEEFELD: Okay, good. So, we’re going back to your friend who’s got the cancer. It’s really important to be using the Body Anew and the pH drops. I can’t emphasize that enough. Those things are really important.

Now, when you use a pH booster and you change pH the water to 13 and you have the detox product in there, you are going to find that the metals are going to be released better. And what I can say is it works as well as if you’re doing the pH drops and you’re sweating.

I have a sauna in my house. We can walk outside and do some yard work in Florida and we can have the sauna right there in our backyard.

DEBRA: Yeah. Living in Florida is living in a sauna.

PAMELA SEEFELD: Yes, it is. So, just go out and get the mail and you’re going to sweat.

But all kidding aside, the sweating process, a lot of the heavy metals come out through the skin. And so, the sweating process is important not only in the anti-aging standpoint, but to release toxins of the body.

And the pH change (making something basic) and using the Body Anew – and I would say too, we were talking about different things like fiber, vegetables or fruits and which cancer seems to be affected most. It’s important if you have a risk for cancer and you are removing metals out of the body, what you really want to is you want to be using the Biogallium Phase in there as well because that pulls out cancer. So the best part is you just put that in the water.

DEBRA: What’s that? Can you say that again for me? What? There’s a word I missed.

PAMELA SEEFELD: Yes, it’s called Biogallium Phase.

DEBRA: How do you spell that? Bio…?


DEBRA: Okay.

PAMELA SEEFELD: An then, the second word is phase. The Bio Gallium Phase is something that when you take it with the detox and the pH drops, you’re going to specifically have this removal of cancer cells.

Gallium has been studied quite a lot in the homeopathic realm and the Biogallium Phase is a DesBio product. It’s developed by physicians.

That’s pretty much part of the basic. We’ll talk about it more when we talk about cancer. But that will go and scavenge the body for cancer cells and start removing them out.

I’ve seen some pretty miraculous stuff especially even if somebody has a tumor underneath the skin where you actually can see it dissolving. But it’s important to realize that doing the pH, at the same time, doing the detox product – like my clients that smoke (which of course I don’t advocate that), but if they’re going to smoke and they’re not going to quite, I tell them to just put the Biogallium Phase in their water every day and it’ll take your risk down significantly.

DEBRA: Wow! That’s pretty amazing! Okay, those were all my questions about pH. I think I understand a lot better now. We still have about five minutes left, is there anything else you’d like to say about…?


DEBRA: Go ahead.

PAMELA SEEFELD: So, what I would like to say is that we’re talking about your risk factors and we were talking about dietary influences and micronutrients and how these things affect the body and change the pH of the body in a favorable way.

I just think that the opening lines and comments that you were making at the beginning of the show, talking about that we take our health for granted, maybe we’re exercising and eat well, but we’re not doing any kind of detox product in a daily basis, if you’re not, you’re really missing something very important.

Why I believe that is because if you look at – I think to myself. I have properties and stuff. I have insurance for everything. You have health insurance, you’ve got property insurance, you’ve got liability insurance, I’ve got an umbrella policy. I’ve got insurance on everything. But really, the best insurance police you can take out is your health.


PAMELA SEEFELD: All these other stuff is not going to matter if you’re sick.

And doing a detox product on a daily basis – and I know for myself, the Body Anew, I’ve been on that almost 17 years probably. I lost count. Obviously, if the person is sick, they’ll probably use a higher dose of it, use the real dose. But using a smaller dose on a daily basis is going to gradually be pulling these things out.

And not only that, you were talking about heavy metals. I think removal of mercury out of the body. We were talking about that and the dental problem with people that…

DEBRA: Yeah.

PAMELA SEEFELD: This is an inexpensive way to get mercury out of the body instead of chelations or some of other methods that tend to be much more severe in the body and it’s much more economical. So, I have to say that that’s important.

Now, I want to mention another study here really quick. I know we’re almost finished here. They were looking at people’s weight and they were finding that people that have a higher BMI, a higher density of their body. Their salivary pH and the flow was low. So, their saliva, for some reason, was not flowing as much and the pH was more acidic.

And so, what they found in these patients is that they have more chances of having dental caries. Maybe it’s the food that these people are eating. That’s what I’m coming down to. If the person has a higher BMI, maybe they are not eating as many of the fruits and vegetables and fiber. They’re eating more processed food or more meat and they’re becoming more acidic. But I think if we can appeal to your listeners that the detox is so important using the Biogallium and the pH drops…

Realizing that if you’re gaining weight and your BMI is creeping up, your pH itself might become a little more acidic and you need to definitely do these things. It’s not just something that sits on the back burner and say, “Well, I’ll think about it. I’ll get around to it one day.”

These are things that you really should do today.

DEBRA: Yes. That’s exactly it! I mean, I know for my friend, as I was taking him to the hospital, he said, “This is a big wake up call for me.” At that point, we didn’t even know. I actually took him to the hospital twice. First, on Saturday and then on Monday. On Saturday, it was just because he was in so much pain. He said, “There has to be something really wrong with me.”

He knew that he had to go to the hospital. He had packed a little bag expecting to be admitted, but they didn’t admit him that day because he already had MRI scheduled. So, we were going to do the MRI. But once he got the MRI, it was like go straight to the hospital. And we did!

He’s right now looking and saying, “Wait! Wait! What could have I done so that I wouldn’t be in now in this predicament?” He’s got so much to do in his life.

PAMELA SEEFELD: Most definitely! This is the thing, personally, the way I see it because I work in a hospital as a clinical pharmacist and I’ve been doing that like 25 years. So, I see a lot of things like this nature and people coming in and I read the history and physical because I’m doing their orders and I’m checking their blood work, we’re working it up as a patient and what I see is that you can’t always predict the future. There are people that are smoking a lot, maybe drinking a lot of heavy, hard liquor and things that aren’t good for you and they know what and they end up with some issues. There’s that pool of people.

But there’s a lot of people that have a pretty decent lifestyle and work out and they’re pretty healthy and it’s a luck of the draw, it really is.

And the chemical load that you have in your body is a ticking time-bomb I cannot emphasize it enough.

DEBRA: It is.

PAMELA SEEFELD: We came with contact with these things everyday and if we’re not having a net removal out of the body on a continual basis, you’re just waiting for your chance and it’s basically, that going to the roulette table and taking your chance, which to me, those chances aren’t very good.

DEBRA: I totally agree with what you’ve just said because even, like I have been living in a non-toxic home for 30 years and there’s really nothing in my home that has toxic chemicals in it and yet, I leave my house and then I’m in this world that has all these toxic things in it. So, things are coming into my body, toxic chemicals are coming into my body and I need to remove them at the rate that they’re coming or they’re just going to accumulate and that’s the case for every single person in this planet right now.

So, if you think that you do not need to detox, then what the likely outcome is that you’re going to end up with some heart disease, cancer, one of these illnesses that is cause by toxic chemicals exposure.

PAMELA SEEFELD: Well, definitely!

DEBRA: And that’s just it. That’s just the fact.

PAMELA SEEFELD: That’s exactly! Those are the facts and really today’s talk is really about facts, what the medical data is saying to us.

But it’s also saying to us that we know that the genes that turn on cancer are instigated by chemicals. So, it’s pretty obvious that we need to be removing these and not just putting in on the back burner and the best part is a lot of this stuff is just liquid. The little drops put it in water. It’s not time-consuming.

DEBRA: It’s not. I take Body Anew, I take Pamela’s Body Anew and I take Pure Body Liquid Zeolite every day. Every day I take these and I’m constantly telling people, “Here, take this, take this…” and they’re just kind of looking me like, “Why? No, I’m fine. I’m fine.” But they’re not fine! I mean how many times have I offered these detox products to my friend who is now in the hospital with cancer? And how many times that he said, “No”?

PAMELA SEEFELD: That’s case in point. That is absolutely right! I can tell you too, even if people that have cancer and they’re being treated with medicines, the homeopathic medicines can work along with it. You can do both and I actually have a lot of people doing both.

DEBRA: Yeah.

PAMELA SEEFELD: But I would say, you need to look at the generalize risk and say, if you haven’t doing any kind of detox products, you need to do the Body Anew and you need to do maybe put some Bio Gallium in the water with the pH drops and just drink to the day. Just bring it to work with you and keep on your desk. It’s a pretty easy thing to do. I do it while I’m working out now, in the morning, because I’ve been doing for so long, I don’t necessarily need to do it the whole day. But taking these things out is really important.

You have to realize, your liver does remove things, the nucleotidase and conjugation, where it changes the chemical and brings it out and it goes out in the urine. But that process is not a 100% and that’s the problem. You might think, “Oh, I’m taking the liver supplement and I’m doing all these things.” It’s not going to make whole much of difference because the net amount that stays behind and goes to your subcutaneous fat is probably can be up to 25%, that’s depending on the individual.

It’s important to realize that even all the good intentions that you have, if you are not doing some preventative process for removing these chemicals out, your increase risk of cancer is just really there. I think it’s important to go over these, which cancers were affected by vegetable intake, which were affected by fruit, which were affected by fiber and what it really means is that it’s all over the board.

DEBRA: It is and Pamela, we’ve only got a few seconds left. So, thank you so much! You’ll be back in two weeks from today and Pamela and I are going to talk about cancer and what causes it and what you can do.

You’re listening to Toxic Free Talk Radio, I’m Debra Lynn Dadd, be well.


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